Dialogue4Health hosted a conversation between the former CEO of Kaiser Permanente, David Lawrence, MD, MPH and the current CEO and President of the Public Health Institute, Mary Pittman, DrPH.

A highlight from a longer video produced by Dialogue4Health, this clip features Dave Lawrence, MD, MPH and Mary Pittman, DrPH discussing the responsibilities of leadership when it comes to decision making regarding innovation, and the questionable role of the randomized controlled trial in Healthcare Delivery.